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looking for a Tolkien reference

There's a quote in the appendices of LOTR I'm looking for but can't find. It's about a monument in the land that eventually became Harad, specifically the site of a monument marking where Sauron had surrendered to Ar-Pharazon. I think the reference pops up in the later history of Gondor, perhaps after the Kinslaying when Castamir's folks leave Gondor and settle in Harad. But for the life of me I can't find the referece, and I need to know all I can about what eventually happened to the monument.

Anyone know the passage and where I can find it?


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Mar. 15th, 2012 10:04 am (UTC)
Found it! It's in Appendix A, part I iv. The passage starts 'The loss of Umbar was grievous to Gondor'.

(I'd copy the entire passage, but the Kindle app won't let me :()
Mar. 15th, 2012 11:10 am (UTC)
Jay, do you have the Kindle app on your computer? It's wonderful for copying passages, best invention ever!
Mar. 15th, 2012 11:13 am (UTC)
Yes, but I can only highlight a passage, not copy it! Am I being thick?
Mar. 15th, 2012 11:19 am (UTC)
Huh. I highlight and copy all the time! Let me go figure out the steps. Brb.



1. Type text to search for in search bar
2.Text shows up highlighted in yellow on Kindle page
3. Left click to select?
4 Grey menu bar appears underneath selection; select "copy"
5. And then paste:

At first he was rough, and then he was gentle.

Kushner, Ellen (2007-12-18). Swordspoint (p. 211). Spectra. Kindle Edition.

None of that works for you? *scratches head*
Mar. 15th, 2012 11:33 am (UTC)
I do all that, but the 'copy' option doesn't appear - just 'highlight' 'add note' 'search' and 'more'.


Perhaps it's a UK copyright issue?

[Edit: And that just *happened* to be the example you used?? :>) ]

Edited at 2012-03-15 11:34 am (UTC)
Mar. 15th, 2012 11:49 am (UTC)
Oh, dear, perhaps it is. Bother.

(Well, it was in my mind; I wrote a B/T drabble inspired by it just the other day...)

*waves to Marta* Hi! Sorry for hijacking your journal!
Mar. 15th, 2012 06:46 pm (UTC)
No worries! Glad to provide a place for a "meeting of minds."
Mar. 15th, 2012 06:47 pm (UTC)
Also: now you must give us a link to the B/T drabble...)
Mar. 15th, 2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
LJ is being very wiggy for me at the moment! It took me ages to get this window to open. But my drabble is just two posts back, not hard to find at all.
Mar. 15th, 2012 06:46 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Jay. I think I can find it.
Mar. 15th, 2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
'Thus he had been king only ten years, when Eldacar, seeing his time, came with a great army out of the north, and folk flocked to him from Calenardhon and Anórien and Ithilien. There was a great battle in Lebennin at the Crossings of Erui, in which much of the best blood in Gondor was shed. Eldacar himself slew Castamir in combat, and so was avenged for Ornendil; but Castamir's sons escaped, and with others of their kin and many people of the fleets they held out long at Pelargir.

'When they had gathered there all the force that they could (for Eldacar had no ships to beset them by sea) they sailed away, and established themselves at Umbar. There they made a refuge for all the enemies of the king, and a lordship independent of his crown. Umbar remained at war with Gondor for many lives of men, a threat to its coastlands and to all traffic on the sea. It was never again completely subdued until the days of Elessar; and the region of South Gondor became a debatable land between the Corsairs and the Kings.'

'The loss of Umbar was grievous to Gondor, not only because the realm was diminished in the south and its hold upon the Men of the Harad was loosened, but because it was there that Ar-Pharazôn the Golden, last King of Númenor, had landed and humbled the might of Sauron. Though great evil had come after, even the followers of Elendil remembered with pride the coming of the great host of Ar-Pharazôn out of the deeps of the Sea; and on the highest hill of the headland above the Haven they had set a great white pillar as a monument. It was crowned with a globe of crystal that took the rays of the Sun and of the Moon and shone like a bright star that could be seen in clear weather even on the coasts of Gondor or far out upon the western sea. So it stood, until after the second arising of Sauron, which now approached, Umbar fell under the domination of his servants, and the memorial of his humiliation was thrown down.
Mar. 16th, 2012 12:16 am (UTC)
Thanks, Gwynnyd. That's it precisely.
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