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Apparently ignorant people are saying idiotic things on the internet. In YouTube comments, no less. Stop the presses!

People in the South are trying to prove that snow is actually fake because it’s a government conspiracy

Normally I’d go on about the stuff I need to get through after taking most of yesterday and today off from getting things done. There’s just one problem: these particular ignorant people went online when the South was getting hammered by a snowstorm. Anomaly, the author of this piece, is sure they must be southerners because –I’m just guessing here– they all had screennames like ClemsonPride1978 or TheSouthDoneRiz or some other clever variation. Actually, to be fair, Anomaly says he reached this conclusion because Southerners “aren’t used to snow (I’m trying to help them find an excuse) so they have all suddenly become scientists, because they think it has to do with chemtrails and the government trying to push a climate change conspiracy, or something.”

That’s me, by the way; hello. Not the scientific illiteracy stuff by a longshot –I actually received a really top-notch education in science and maths, including a B.S. in maths from a state university– but the Southern part? Absolutely. That B.S. I mentioned? From the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. I also had basic chemistry and physics so I know it’s possible for a frozen substance to be heated so quickly it vaporizes rather than melting into a liquid. I learned that in school, actually in an adjoining class to where I learned how to tritate and dissect (and, since we’re on the subject of science education, that the earth is most certainly more than 6,000 years old). Most people I knew were exposed to these kinds of things. Not all of them remembered it, but then again, a good number of the people I’ve tutored in Cleveland and taught in New York were similarly fuzzy on the details.

Speaking for myself, the science education I received in the Carolinas gives me a bit of ability in evaluating empirical claims. I like to test what I read, so much as the available evidence allows. That’s why I particularly appreciated Anomaly’s specific, quantified claims that I could verify. There are, after all, “tons of videos out there trying to disprove snow,” and a “lot of people think the snow that has hit the Southeast was “geo-engineered.”" So that answers my basic skepticism, I guess. I suppose it’s not at all possible that people in (say) Iowa or New Jersey were responding to a national story and used it as an opportunity to take a swipe at global warming. (Because, you know, national journalists like Iowa-born Steve Doocy are completely innocent on this topic.) Clearly this is enough to justify our outrage that these people can vote, as quite a few people can on that site. One particularly memorable comment refers to “snow ball goobers.”


As I said, ignorant people are saying idiotic things on the internet. Better save room above the fold for this one.

Here’s the truly frustrating thing about all this: Southerners are getting blamed as a group for this. For comparison, a news story recently popped up on my FB page talking about a correlation between high incidence of whooping-cough cases and high percentages of non-medical vaccination exemptions [that is, where people chose not to vaccinate their kids without a medical justification] in California. They said these overlapping areas “‘were associated with factors characteristic of high socioeconomic status such as lower population density, lower average family size, lower percentage of racial or ethnic minorities,’ higher incomes and other factors, the researchers wrote.” But I can’t imagine any news piece referring to silver-spoon granola flakes who (guess what) actual vote. That kind of generalization, denigration, and name-calling seems saved for white Southerners. I can’t even imagine a headline along the lines of “People in California are refusing to vaccinate their children, leading to whooping cough outbreaks.” You just don’t get that level of marking a few individuals’ reaction to a region-wide vice for any other area of the country. It might get attributed to anti-vaxxers or something similar, but that’s at least a group that more or less overlaps with the behavior being called out. Not true here.

And that, in case you’re wondering was the point I had to calmly leave the library, make my way to the bathroom, lock the stall door, and scream. Because sometimes? This shit just gets so, so old.

Originally published at Faith Seeking Understanding. You can comment here or there.


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Feb. 1st, 2014 09:34 pm (UTC)
Television has everyone else in the US convinced that we are all like those horrid southern themed reality shows. I am not and have never been anything like Honey BooBoo's family. Hell, I'd never met any people like that until I was in my 30s. The south does have its fair share of morons but that doesn't seem to be regional.

I went to UNC-G as well. BA in English.
Feb. 1st, 2014 09:46 pm (UTC)
Hearing that you're a fellow UNCG alum gave me a real smile. Love those kinds of connections. On your larger point, I quite agree. We're not perfect as a region, but the way people act like every person living in this quarter of the country is as bad as the worst stereotypes seriously wears on my last nerves sometimes.

It's been a rough few days for me, so this hit me hard. It's particularly nice to know that other people have noticed the same trend.
Feb. 2nd, 2014 03:48 am (UTC)
Years ago there was a study that showed someone's perception of another's intellect automatically dropped drastically if that other person spoke with a Southern accent!

One of the big problems is that many Southerners go out of their way to reinforce this stereotypical image. Look at comedians from the South whose stand-up routines rely on redneck humor; country-music singers whose videos feature busty women in cut-offs and cowboy boots, pick-up trucks, beer and mud; movie-makers and novelists who draw on the tropes of corrupt sheriffs and inbred families; and the aforementioned "reality" shows like "Honey Boo-Boo" and "Duck Dynasty". It's like many Southerners want people to believe they are like that--even though they know better themselves.

Feb. 2nd, 2014 04:35 am (UTC)
And...that just found my berserk button. I have nearly punched out the lights of many a smug Northern liberal in my day...or at least fantasized about it real hard.
Feb. 3rd, 2014 12:01 pm (UTC)
It probably wouldn't help at this point if I assured you that plenty of educated liberal Northern Europeans assume that level of scientific illiteracy is the norm in the States, would it?... ;-) [ducks'n'runs]

Overgeneralising prejudice is everywhere, basically. But from a non-US perspective, it's really interesting to see the evidence that every country has its own regional stereotypes (the equivalents here might be the West Country "Mummerset" local-yokel stereotype and the assumption that everyone in Norfolk is inbred and has webbed feet ;-)
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